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you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments in the church's history right now if you look at what happened with this huge scandal with pedophiles in the church. it's gone through every diocese and you're stacked with catholics. i'm catholic, i was an altar boy. i went to catholic university. all of that. i think we're at that moment in time where they have to make a decision, actually similar to the republican party in the same exact thing, they could either retrench and become a minority institution or they can expand. youth are leaving the church. minorities in the developed world are leaving church. there's no role -- women don't feel a real role in the
you know, with the last election, we all knew joseph ratzinger and so did they, but there's nobody like that now, and with the scandals that are there, the first thing they have to do is make absolutely sure in every way that whomever they pick is spotless. >> exactly. >> and they don't know how to do that. they don't know how. i mean what are they going to do, call the head of the knights of columbus? they don't know how to do it. >> to me it's one of the most crucial moments...
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it's a volkswagen golf, formerly owned by a man named joseph ratzinger, now known as pope benedict xvi. it's now listed on ebay and online casino bought it first back in 2005. that's the ceo right there. they're hoping to get $150,000. the proceeds will go to charity, they say. >>> also in the "index" tonight, take a look at this video, this 3-year-old nova scotia retriever, got stuck on the ice. on lake michigan. they sent in a chopper first, then a fire boat. finally, a man on a kayak swooped in, he dove into the frigid waters to get him. the dog actually tried to bite the guy. ultimately, they did get the dog off the lake and back with his owner. that's our "instant index" for tonight. >>> coming up next -- we're calling her the footloose first lady, what michelle obama did that's going viral tonight. [ jackie ] it's just so frustrating... ♪ the middle of this special moment and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter. ♪ so today, i'm finally talking to my doctor about overactive bladder symptoms. [ fema
it's a volkswagen golf, formerly owned by a man named joseph ratzinger, now known as pope benedict xvi. it's now listed on ebay and online casino bought it first back in 2005. that's the ceo right there. they're hoping to get $150,000. the proceeds will go to charity, they say. >>> also in the "index" tonight, take a look at this video, this 3-year-old nova scotia retriever, got stuck on the ice. on lake michigan. they sent in a chopper first, then a fire boat. finally, a man...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> well, the man chosen to lead the roman catholic church has a busy first day. he's set to meet with his predecessor, the former pope benedict this morning, and then celebrate mass this afternoon. nbc's claudio la vantagea is at the vatican this morning. claudio, good morning. what's the mood like where you are? >> reporter: well, mara, cardinal bergoglio has only been pope for a few hours,
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: his...
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. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter: choosing to become pope francis, he takes the name of 13th-century preacher st. francis aseesie, who lived a life of poverty. no surprise to those who know him. >> you can see the humility of the man, you can see the calm of the man, and i can tell you, i know the strength of the man and the compassion of the man. >> reporter: his election has sparked excitement in latin america, both out of cultural pride and the recognition of the growing importance and influence of that part of the world. >> bergoglio brings latin america to rome and to the world. >> that was lester holt reporting. in a statement, president obama
. >> reporter: in 2005, bergoglio was runner-up behind joseph ratzinger to replace the late pope john paul ii. he is regarded as a strong defender of catholic doctrine, described by his biographer as a balancing force. he earned a reputation in argentina as a fierce advocate for the poor. >> this is a man of god, a man of the new evangelization, a man who is a great defender of democracy in a country where democracy is under real stress right now in argentina. >> reporter:...
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but benedict xvi, or joseph ratzinger as he will begin on february 28, is too much of a respecter of the process to try to interfere with it. he is really going to disappear. you're not going to see him for a considerable length of time, that's how he wants it and that's how it ought to be. >> let me talk about cardinal timothy dolan, the religious new service calls him today the chris christie of the college of cardinals, a man who's a plus sized purlet who makes jokes about his weight. he said in terms of baseball, i am going to be pro choice. is it possible for them to choose an american pope? would it be good for the church to choose an american pope? >> reporter: if the cardinals decide that cardinal dolan is the man who can do what i just said to crystal, put a forward looking faith on the church's offer of disciple ship, i think he will be the man chosen. i think the old taboo about a superpower pope being off the table is really no longer in play. that had something to do with the cold war, obviously. but it also had something to do with the decline of american presence in th
but benedict xvi, or joseph ratzinger as he will begin on february 28, is too much of a respecter of the process to try to interfere with it. he is really going to disappear. you're not going to see him for a considerable length of time, that's how he wants it and that's how it ought to be. >> let me talk about cardinal timothy dolan, the religious new service calls him today the chris christie of the college of cardinals, a man who's a plus sized purlet who makes jokes about his weight....
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cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first vote, as you know last night, is full of complementary votes that don't really give you an indication, that gives the cardinals an indication of where the lay of the land lies. but they ought to have some reasonable idea now after this morning two ballots who has real traction, if anyone, and one can imagine after lunch and the typical italian reposo who may not have taken a nap this afternoon that some of the coalitions are being readjusted and cardinals are thinking now as they reenter the sistine chapel. >> so you talk about those adjustments. if the conclave were to end quickly, after this next vo
cardinal joseph ratzinger was elected in the fastest conclave. it came in day two of the conclave. back in 2005, black smoke came in at 6:52 and white smoke came in about six hours later at 12:50 p.m. joining me is george. we've had no pope. at what point is the pivot point for the voting that will take place behind the scenes today, the narrowing down, at least, of the candidates? >> they are certainly going to be narrowing down, thomas. that may have in fact began already. the first...
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and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary. strength in the last few months deteriorated in me to the extent i have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. for this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom i declare i renounce the ministry of bishop of rome. successor of st. peter and entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 april, 2005. amazing. welcome in a special panel to talk about the resignation. kathryn lopez with national review online. she talked to the pope last fall. david kerr is the correspondent with ewtn, global catholic media network in the
and cardinal joseph ratzinger and pope benedict xvi. >> bret: it was a surprise. coac.pope benedict xvi will resn february 28. that will start a conclave to make new pope in rome sometime before easter. here is the letter from pope benedict said. the resignation letter. in today's world, stout so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance of the life of faith in order to govern the bark of st. peter and proclaim the gospel, strength of mind and body are necessary....
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behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel it. i mean, at this moment. well, there you go. at the same time, when you see the -- when you see the swiss guards kind of ending their duty for the time being, i can't help but thinking of the whole history of the papacy. they're a personal guard of the pope because the pope is attacked before. the vatican has been attacked in the 20 centuries of church. even though there's surprises in the past, the schurch is still here and god is still working through the church and so i feel a lot of hope, as well. kind of excitement about what might -- what the next couple of weeks might bring. >> we see the th
behind those walls, behind those gaets now, pope emeritus, the former joseph ratzinger and we have the seat is vacant. the seat of peter is now vacant. father bartuni krc, your feelin? >> the feelings i've had all day. i'm feeming more. bitt bittersweet. nice to see how the decision of the pope is taken by the catholic faithful throughout the world. following what he believes to be the good for the church and many of us have come to really love him and respect him. and so, you really feel...
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in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give themselves as much time as they can to do the political heavy lifting so they don't end up stalled once they're behind those closed doors. >> thanks so much. vatican analyst joining us from roechl. >>> a family coming to grips with a tragic loss. we're going to have an exclusive interview with reeva steenkamp's uncle and cousin. >> they forgive the blade runner. medicated pain relief you store in the freezer. brrr...see ya boys. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on. [ male announcer ] bengay zero degrees. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why
in 2005, there was a clear front-runner in cardinal joseph ratzinger, the man who had been john paul's right hand. this time, what you have is a much more wide open field and in fact, in one of the last press briefings we got, cardinal frances george of chicago said that right now, the list seems to be coming longer rather than shorter of potential popes. i think their corn concern is they don't want to have a protractive conclave once they go into the sistine chapel, so they want to give...
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well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a worldwide church. yes, i think there are ready. they're not -- i don't think they are particularly too bothered about the fact that the next pope will be italian. they just want to know who is next because that's always a massive event here in rome. when the white smoke comes out of the sistine chapel, people will be charging here down the big street from rome into the vatican because everyone wantston who their new pope is. that's exciting. >> george, you talk about the challenges that the first has faced. is that going to be part of this conversation, the scandals here, and else where in the wo
well, then came joseph ratzinger, a german, but then at that point they could choose to a non-italian being pope. if our catholics, and especially catholics in rome and in italy, are they ready for a noneuropean? yes, i think so. they have come to understand that what really matters is the passion, the stamina, the strength, and the message that a pope sends out and how he delivers it. they embrace that and understand that the world is now a worldwide church. that the catholic church is now a...
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one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church might take, and in america we know there's a big wing of the roman catholics who is looking for a more progressive, more modern catholic church, that addresses the real issues of living in today's 21st century world, other parts of the word are much more traditional, much more conservative model. how do you see it going forward and to you think there will be an american pope for the first time? >> an american pope is a long shot, but for the first time it's thinkable. in the old idea you couldn't have a super power pope because america is too powerful and if you put that guy in, half the world will think vatica
one was the american cardinal and joseph ratzinger you may have heard of who became benedict xvi. this time you have 50 conclave veterans in the sistine chapel, and i think therefore will be more inclined to think they ought to have say in what's happening. >> and i believe some 67 who have been elevated to cardinal by benedict xvi. >> that's right. all 115 were appointed by john paul or benedict. >> so as catholics around the world look to the possible direction the church...
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member of the ee legal swiss guard who protected the holy and also knew benedict when benedict was joseph ratzinger. >> he could work with a real crowd and with his experience in theater and poetry and everything, he would really reach people like that. >> widmer, an author who teaches at catholic university, says as a swiss guard you never spoke to a pope or cardinal unless he addressed you first but he and benedict would chat when benedict was waiting to see pope john paul. >> completely open. >> reporter: what was he like to talk to? >> very -- he would ask me what my interests were and how i felt and how i saw things. >> reporter: and with a sense of humor, like when benedict offered to sign widmer's copy of a book that he written which was pretty thick. >> when i gave it to him he said, you're really reading this? and i said, i'm trying. he said, it helps to do it in small steps. >> reporter: but he also had a personal crisis as a guard, spending his first christmas away from home. john paul helped him through that. >> i sort of had a meltdown and right at that moment he comes out of
member of the ee legal swiss guard who protected the holy and also knew benedict when benedict was joseph ratzinger. >> he could work with a real crowd and with his experience in theater and poetry and everything, he would really reach people like that. >> widmer, an author who teaches at catholic university, says as a swiss guard you never spoke to a pope or cardinal unless he addressed you first but he and benedict would chat when benedict was waiting to see pope john paul....
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joseph ratzinger covered all abuse cases for the vatican. >>> closing arguments continue in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. on tuesday, a jackson family attorney argued that aeg live hired the doctor who gave jackson a fatal dose of pro propofol. he wants $35 million to go to jackson's mother. >>> a key segment of the key seems to be looking up. home prices have jumped and now this just in, new home sales pric prices rose 7.9% last month. alison kosik is joining us. >> the number, 7.9% rise in new home sales for the month of august coming in line with estimates. you have to put it in perspective. august is still considered the peak selling season for homes. it's actually at the end of it. this could be possibly the end of seeing these kinds of jumps in new home sales. but this is quite a jump when you look at july when there was a drop of more than 14% in sales of new homes. now, that drop had a lot to do with mortgage rates. they took a little bit of a jump on the expectation that the fed would cut back on the amount of stimulus that's been pouring into the financial system.
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. >> and lord, joseph, roman catholic church, cardinal ratzinger. ratzinger. >> oh, back now to more recent images and it's clear that the pope, vatican leader has taken a toll on him physically and such a incredibly demanding position, he insists that the decision to step down was made without any outside pressure. greg palkot is outside london with the latest. >> reporter: it was a big surprise to a lot of people. pope benedict xvi saying he will step down on february 28th, less than eight years into the papacy and he went on to say that specifically his strength was deteriorating in the last few months and that's why he made the decision. according to the vatican today, this sets up a conclave of cardinals and elections for a new pope by mid march and the vatican saying we should see a new pope by easter sunday, march 31st. and benedict will not take part in that conclave and has to be said conclaves usually happen when poapst die and the last time a pope resigned was the year 1415. and pope benedict says that poapst should step down when they do
. >> and lord, joseph, roman catholic church, cardinal ratzinger. ratzinger. >> oh, back now to more recent images and it's clear that the pope, vatican leader has taken a toll on him physically and such a incredibly demanding position, he insists that the decision to step down was made without any outside pressure. greg palkot is outside london with the latest. >> reporter: it was a big surprise to a lot of people. pope benedict xvi saying he will step down on february 28th,...
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ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as he appeared there is a kindly, grandfatherly quality to him that maybe will speak and attract those of us who are much younger and kind of in need of wisdom and guidance. so yes surprised disappointed no. >> what will happen? at some point he will come to the united states. your school, the catholic university of america i'm sure he will come there. they usually make some sort of appearance there, right? >> two popes have, pope john paul ii and pope benedict of course and you were there for his appearance that time back in 2008. whethe
ratzinger became pope benedict xvi. he got what, 40, at least these are the reports, he got about 40 of the votes among the 115 cardinals but they thought maybe this time his name wasn't floated around that much because he is 76 years old and given the fact that pope benedict stepped down citing his own age were you surprised that they selected someone 76? >> yeah. i have to confess i was a little bit surprised by that. and yet in looking into the man's eyes as he appeared and his face as...
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. >> reporter: as cardinals joseph ratzinger, he was labelled god's rottweiler. he was shown a gentle side. never more so than meeting with sex abuse victims in his 2008 trip in the u.s. he saved his biggest surprise for last says john thamus who covered the vatican for 30 years. >> he will be remembered as the pope who resigned. it will be greatest gift to the church. >> reporter: currently, the conclave to elect the successor to benedict xvi is to happen between march 15th and march 20th. there is talk of moving that date up. all of the cardinals are expected to be here on february 28th. alex, back to you. >>> anne thompson, thank you. the blame game on tsequestratio. the new york times says those will cut 14,000 teachers and employees. and 250,000 civilians employed by the army could be furloughed for up to 22 days. aircraft would forego maintenance. >> it's the president who proposed this sequester. is the house with smarter cuts in other areas of government. >> the fact is this was never the president's idea. this was the result of hostage politics in the re
. >> reporter: as cardinals joseph ratzinger, he was labelled god's rottweiler. he was shown a gentle side. never more so than meeting with sex abuse victims in his 2008 trip in the u.s. he saved his biggest surprise for last says john thamus who covered the vatican for 30 years. >> he will be remembered as the pope who resigned. it will be greatest gift to the church. >> reporter: currently, the conclave to elect the successor to benedict xvi is to happen between march 15th...
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cardinal joseph ratzinger became pope benedict xvi after four ballots and that took only two days. now, this is unlikely to happen this time because there are divisions among the cardinals and it may take a few days longer. now, the longest conclave in the last 100 years was five days. will this one go over that and become a record-breaker? well, craig, we'll have to wait for the white smoke and see. >> well, we know that they have been here for a number of days now. we saw some pictures from mass this morning. what else have they been doing over the past few days. have there been alliances built, campaigning, so to speak? >> well, what we know is that there are two factions coming out of college of cardinals. one is the reformers who want to change the things as they are run here now from within the vatican city as the roman courier, especially the italian cardinals, are blamed to have concentrated too much power with themselves, and the other ones, sorry, of course, the ones that want to change it. the other ones, the faction is the old guards. just want to keep things as they ar
cardinal joseph ratzinger became pope benedict xvi after four ballots and that took only two days. now, this is unlikely to happen this time because there are divisions among the cardinals and it may take a few days longer. now, the longest conclave in the last 100 years was five days. will this one go over that and become a record-breaker? well, craig, we'll have to wait for the white smoke and see. >> well, we know that they have been here for a number of days now. we saw some pictures...
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that was joseph ratzinger. so, it was a major moment for him. what is the context this time with angelo sodano? >> well, slightly different, chris. i think a lot of people will tell you that the homily ratzinger gave in 2005 sort of solidified his status as the front-runner going into that conclave. now, this time, the dynamic is not the same. cardinal angelo sodano is already over 80. he's 85, so he's not going to be in the sistine chapel. for that reason alone, probably, he would be a radical long-shot to be elected pope. but in addition, he's sort of identified with the old guard in the vatican, and as we were talking earlier, there is kind of a strong antiestablishment mood among these cardinal electors that indicates many of them would like to see a change. and so, i don't think anyone believes that sodano is in a position to propel himself forward as a candidate. however, this is sort of a last opportunity for the ruling regime in the vatican, so to speak, to be able to make its case as to why continuity, rather than discontinuity, would b
that was joseph ratzinger. so, it was a major moment for him. what is the context this time with angelo sodano? >> well, slightly different, chris. i think a lot of people will tell you that the homily ratzinger gave in 2005 sort of solidified his status as the front-runner going into that conclave. now, this time, the dynamic is not the same. cardinal angelo sodano is already over 80. he's 85, so he's not going to be in the sistine chapel. for that reason alone, probably, he would be a...
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. >> joseph ratzinger, cardinal ratzinger then was 78 years old when he got this job and was actually looking at retirement. he was ready to step down. >> right. >> but obviously the vatican calls -- >> he was moving to boca. hey, how do you know, mika brzezinski, that your church, the catholic church, is in serious, serious trouble? >> how? >> when mike barnicle is speaking. when he becomes -- >> when i'm at the pope desk. >> when he's at the pope desk. where is pat buchanan? hey, somebody call pat buchanan and wake him up. what's up next? >>> well, we're going to talk about the state of the union next. coming up, deputy majority whip congressman tom cole will join us. also former deputy campaign manager for the obama campaign, stephanie cutter will be here to preview the president's state of the union address. and later, we'll talk to nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. and "new york times" columnist gail collins. and in just a few minutes, sports columnist for the "new york daily news," mike lupica joins the table. he knows it's true. look at him, he looks guilty.
. >> joseph ratzinger, cardinal ratzinger then was 78 years old when he got this job and was actually looking at retirement. he was ready to step down. >> right. >> but obviously the vatican calls -- >> he was moving to boca. hey, how do you know, mika brzezinski, that your church, the catholic church, is in serious, serious trouble? >> how? >> when mike barnicle is speaking. when he becomes -- >> when i'm at the pope desk. >> when he's at the...
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unlike eight years ago when cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front runner to replace pope john paul ii, this time no clear consensus around the successor, you hear names but no one that this a front-runner. cardinals within the vatican are hoping to energize the 1.2 billion catholics. the first pope from latin america, she werer exis the hope. but angelo scola said to be the favorite of cardinals from nation. timothy dolan of new york and sean patrick o'malley of boston are believed to be in the mix. >> it is a place filled with see kress circumstance mystery, corruption and scandal and the next pope has to address all that and give catholics both here in the united states and around the world the sense that he gets it, the see kress say that surrounded the papacy for the last 20 years has got to be eliminated. >> if they hired me as a marketer, no, i say this seriously, work to hire someone younger. and is that church obviously in turmoil now and to have somebody that physically appears they are of this time, for lack of a better word, would immediately send a signal. it sounds lik
unlike eight years ago when cardinal joseph ratzinger was the front runner to replace pope john paul ii, this time no clear consensus around the successor, you hear names but no one that this a front-runner. cardinals within the vatican are hoping to energize the 1.2 billion catholics. the first pope from latin america, she werer exis the hope. but angelo scola said to be the favorite of cardinals from nation. timothy dolan of new york and sean patrick o'malley of boston are believed to be in...
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and with that, after eight years, formal cardinal joseph rat ratzinger retires as pop. as we continue to see what the conclave will do as we search for his successor as the entire world watches what is happening with him. >>> got some breaking news out of the new york fed. a hard right turn here to steve liesman. >> why does this always happen to me, carl? >> hard to follow the pope, my man. >> exactly. let me do my best. the new york fed reporting that total consumer indebtedness rising a scant 3% to 11.3 trillion. housing debt was flat. it was a small gain but the first gain we've seen since the first quarter of 2011, that was thought to be a bit of a statistical anomaly. so maybe this is the first real gain. let me show you what rose. auto loans up 15 billion. credit cards up 5 billion. the perennial student loans up 10 billion and they have been rising quite a bit. delinquencies are quite high. all delinquencies declined except for student loans and they were up almost 12% and probably because of a whole bunch of different reasons, carl, they could be twice as high
and with that, after eight years, formal cardinal joseph rat ratzinger retires as pop. as we continue to see what the conclave will do as we search for his successor as the entire world watches what is happening with him. >>> got some breaking news out of the new york fed. a hard right turn here to steve liesman. >> why does this always happen to me, carl? >> hard to follow the pope, my man. >> exactly. let me do my best. the new york fed reporting that total consumer...